Bipolar Disorder and ADHD Symptoms: It’s only fun if it’s happening to a puppy and not you!

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My brain feels like there is a puppy inside chasing butterflies instead of letting me work! 

It’s common for people with bipolar disorder to have ADD symptoms as well.

If the person with bipolar disorder has ADD or ADHD symptoms when manic or depressed, it’s a symptom of bipolar disorder. If the symptoms are separate from a manic or depressed episode, the ADD or ADHD symptoms are a separate diagnosis. 

I wish I could take Ritalin regularly. It helps SO MUCH, but it also causes mania. People with bipolar disorder simply can’t take ADD medications unless they are also on a strong mood stabilizer. This means a natural management plan for the symptoms needs to be in place  I write about my plan in Get it Done When You’re Depressed. I  used my strategies this morning and finally got out of the house and was able to sit down and work.  Puppies chasing butterflies are cute- unless they keep you from getting on with your life.

These attention problems significantly affect my ability to work.  I have a separate ADD problem  that has to be treated separately from the bipolar disorder! Do you have ADD symptoms?

Julie

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Pt 1 What are the Symptoms of Bipolar Disorder Dysphoric Mania?

What is Dysphoric Mania?

Dysphoric mania, also known as agitated or mixed mania is a bipolar disorder mood swing that is often missed due to confusing symptoms.

Dysphoric mania is the opposite of euphoric mania- it’s still a chemically elevated (in terms of energy) mood- but it has none of the good feelings associated with euphoric mania.  Dysphoric mania is very confusing for the person in the mood swing.  The anger can be so quick and so real.

I am angry at you for many things! I’m just angry! Leave me alone. Stop bugging me!

I don’t have a problem. Why don’t you look at yourself! You are the one with the  problem! It can’t always be me. You’ve been getting on my case about this for years. In fact, just last month on the 21st I remember that you said something about my behavior.

I’ve changed. My eyes are open and what I thought I wanted isn’t good enough. I want out. I couldn’t tell you this before because I didn’t know I was so unhappy.

Why do you always want to change me? Can’t you just see that this is who I am and your snooping into my life is just making me want out more than ever.

I’m going to #$%#$% rip the sink out of this #$%#$% wall if you don’t get the #$%#$ out of this kitchen. I hate you! I hate everyone in my #$%#^@#  life!

Part 2 of this blog has a bipolar disorder dysphoric manic checklist!  You can visit my Facebook page at Julie A. Fast and read more comments on this post.

Julie

 

Here is a question from Maddie about the above blog:

Hi Julie,

Right now I’m so p.o’d with everyon, even if I don’t want to be and I know I shouldn’t. But omg! I want to say I feel a little psychotic depressive (if its possible to only be a little psychotic) hallucinations, constant anxiety and fear, thoughts of killing (myself and others even though I don’t feel like acting upon them) I imagine my wrists slit open or see myself get hit by a bus, etc. I feel like every person I pass is watching me and is going to do something. Its so bad -does this sound like bipolar psychosis? I am bipolar (not officially so I can’t say if bipolar I or bipolar II etc.)

Maddie.

 

Hi Maddie,

When I’m pissed off at EVERYONE it tends to be bipolar disorder. It’s pretty hard to be mad at the world- there are usually a few good people who don’t deserve our anger! This is usually anxiety or a mixed episode for me- also called dysphoric mania. You can use your sleep as a guide- if you see significant changes in your sleep, it’s usually mania. If you have trouble sleeping due to restless thoughts- but can still sleep, it’s usually anxiety. Also, what are the possible triggers. I just wrote my latest column for BP Magazine and it’s about giving up the triggers that make us sick, even if we like the triggers!

What you describe 100% sounds like stress psychosis. I get it when life is too hectic- such as when I have to speak in front of a big crowd or I’m in a situation I can’t control. I always called the hallucinations where I saw myself get killed- ‘death images.’ Then I realized it was psychosis. Homicidal thoughts are common too- wanting to kill someone out of anger is a scary feeling. The thinking that people are watching you is typical paranoia. If you are experiencing this with depression, then it could be bipolar. But the only way you can have bipolar is if you have had an obvious hypomanic or manic episode.  You can look on my blog subject menu for more information on psychosis and mania. I definitely suggest you go see someone for an evaluation. Psychosis is not super common, so something is going on with your brain that can be fixed! If you want to find out a more general description of bipolar disorder, my book Take Charge of Bipolar Disorder is the best option. I suggest you see if you fit the symptoms for bipolar II and then go get some help. There is no way you want to live like this- and I know from personal experience that you can get a LOT better. Julie

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PT 2 What are the Symptoms of Bipolar Disorder Dysphoric Mania?

f you lips candy smallDysphoric mania checklist: Do any of these sound familiar?

  • You feel agitated and uncomfortable in the body and mind- this is different than anxiety!
  • The depression feels active- it’s not catatonic or sedating.
  • The mind feels jumbled- but energized in a negative way. You may have thoughts such as, “I hate my life. I hate my work. I’ve got to get out of here.”
  • You’re very easily irritated.  This can lead to punching things, yelling and picking fights with those you normally treat with love.
  • Road rage with a lot of yelling.
  • You cuss far more than normally- or may even have thoughts and say things that are completely against character.
  • Sleep is completely disturbed due to the mania.

Take Charge of Bipolar Disorder and the Health Cards Treatment System for Bipolar Disorder have a treatment plan for all kinds of mania. I also discuss dysphoric mania in my free Bipolar Disorder 101 coaching call. Info on how to listen to the call is on the menu bar.

Let’s learn about dysphoric mania so that it doesn’t ruin relationships and lives.

Julie

PS:  I once had a 6 week dysphoric manic episode that caught me 100% by surprise. My obsessions were buying a Dodge Charger and moving to Barcelona. Thank heavens I had a management plan in place or I would be driving a gas guzzling car in Spain! 😉

I once again answer the critics on why this blog about bipolar disorder believes in medications for bipolar disorder!

med questionI continually receive comments, posts on social media and direct emails trying to ‘open my eyes’ to the dangers of psychiatric medications. If you look below to the post under this one, you will see a post on Lamictal (lamotrigine) from a few years ago.

I re-posted the entry so that you could see the comments I receive from those who for some reason feel that a balanced blog that stresses management skills with medications when needed would be open to the idea that NO ONE with bipolar disorder should take medications.

 I guess they think I just love putting these toxic things in my body! I don’t like what medications do to us physically, who would. But as someone with very severe rapid cycling where I can go in and out of strong mood swings five or more times a day, sometimes a great management plan isn’t enough.  When I can’t sleep AT ALL because the mania is acting up,  using my management skills often isn’t enough.  The latest comment  I received gave what I consider dangerous advice to a reader- the advice- Get off psych meds as they are toxic and don’t really work.

Let’s be really clear here.

Medications are TOXIC! But to say they don’t work is ignorance in its most basic form.

 Please know  that I love a good debate- I love opinions and I often post opinions I don’t agree with. But when the opinion is dangerous to the health of those with bipolar disorder, I will post it, but I will not let the misinformation move forward without adding my opinion.  For those out there who are against medication use in mental illness, please know I respect your opinion! If you have a serious mental health disorder and it works for you not to take medications, I am happy for you.   If you want to get your message to the world, you are in the right country to do so.  But please know that this blog is not the right platform for your views.

 The comment that got me going this morning basically said that anyone who takes Lamictal is a fool and should stop it immediately as it doesn’t work and any success a person has on Lamictal is a placebo effect. Here is my reply: 

Hello Ellen, I’m posting your comment as I believe that a conversation about medications is important. I also like your balanced approach in writing. I will say that I do disagree with you about the Lamictal for a reason you might not expect. Robert Whitaker got it right in so many ways- but the biggest issue I have with the argument you present is that there are some of us who will die if we don’t have medications such as Lamictal. This doesn’t make the medications any less toxic. Do you think I like the stiff neck, breathing problems and itchiness I get with Lamictal? Heck no! But… when I don’t take it I often go down to 50% functioning because my rapid cycling is so all encompassing, I don’t have the energy to do what I have to do to move forward in life. Just this week my hypomania was so intense I had to take EXTRA medications to get back to baseline. I don’t want to do this! I have to do this.

I have a question- Do you take any medications? Tylenol? Aspirin? A sleep aid? Maybe something for a persistent physical illness?  Have you read their side effect profiles? I especially love the bleeding stomach ulcers that come with aspirin. I rarely find people who are against psych meds who are just as against meds for physical ailments. I ask this question with respect- do you go onto blogs that address those who have heart conditions and tell them to get off their medications?

Do you tell cancer patients to tough it out and NEVER use chemo? Would you put people’s lives in danger on sites that are not about mental illness?

If the answer is no, then how on earth can you in good faith go onto a blog such as this one and tell people to stop the medications that might be saving their lives? Think about it.

My coauthor Dr. John Preston and I revised my book Loving Someone with Bipolar Disorder to address the medication question more fully. We added a new chapter in 2012 that addresses the dilemma all of us with bipolar disorder face when we need medication.

When people tell others not to take psych meds, they are risking the lives of the other person. If you are ok dispensing information such as telling someone the medication that helped was simply a placebo affect, are you just as willing to talk to the loved ones if that person takes your advice, goes off meds and ends up killing herself?

If you are willing to take this risk- then I say continue your work to make others feel bad about taking medications that are often needed, but be aware of the moral liability. I do respect your right to an opinion- which is why I posted your comment. I do respect that what you described worked for you, but.. and I mean this with the greatest respect- bipolar disorder is a very dangerous illness and anyone who has the nerve to get online and suggest to ill and often fragile people that medications don’t help is a danger to people with mental illnesses.  People who are ill often can’t see that they need medications and feed off of information such as yours- ask any parent who has gone through this and they will tell you that it’s the misinformation on the web that causes the most problems when a manic and psychotic child desperately needs help but instead sends the parents links to comments such as yours. I used to be quiet about this, but after five years of coaching parents and partners who are in this exact situation, I’m using my voice to do something about it.

Many of us would not make it without medications. I can’t stand what they do to our bodies- the weight gain, the skin problems, the twitching, the apathy and the memory loss- but, if I have to go through that in order to get myself out of a serious episode I will. You may notice that I have ZERO drug sponsorship on my sites. I could make a lot of money going that route, but I don’t do it. I believe in a full spectrum management plan where drugs are a PART of the system. This is why I am often off drugs for long periods of time.

Please know this simply isn’t the place for scaring and confusing others who are starting the journey to management. Bipolar disorder is not anxiety -it’s not depression and it doesn’t fit into the more moderate type of psychiatric illness that can be treated without medications. Instead, it’s a complicated and dangerous illness that often presents all of the symptoms at once- as you see in dysphoric manic episodes.

In the future, I hope you can find a blog that fits your needs. Bipolarhappens.com is not that blog. This blog has always been and will continue to be a place where those who want and need medication can come for information.

The Bipolarhappens.com blog also offers free information on how to manage this illness outside of medications. This is not a site where we put down the use of medications: ever. This is a site where the balanced use of medications if needed is discussed. No one is blind to the problem, least of all me- ask me again about my three cracked teeth, weight gain, rashes and fibromyalgia- I do get it that having to take these medications sucks. I use a management plan for 75% of my symptoms- it’s called The Heath Cards- when the 25% shows up- such as my continual hypomania- I TAKE MEDICATIONS.

Thank you,

Julie

Reader Question on Lamictal (lamotrigine) Side Effects

LamictalLamictal is a mood stabilizer used to treat bipolar disorder depression.

The generic name is lamotrigine.  The basic dose is 200 mg, though the dose can vary greatly depending on the person. It usually has very low side effects, but there can certainly be some that interfere with life! Here is a question from a reader (Jon) about Lamictal side effects.

Hi Julie,

I’m taking 800mg of lamictal a day for epilepsy, and Ive had a problem with my throat for the past 2 years (almost since Ive been on the medicine. Primarily continual clearing of my throat and a sensation of something stuck in the back of my throat. Ive seen tons of drs, checked me for all nasal and stomach issues, all to no avail. My last dr said it could be some type of tic, but I wasn’t sure. Has anyone else heard of something like this? Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated!!! And thank you all for sharing your stories.  Jon

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Hi Jon, this is a normal side effect of Lamictal. I’ve noticed a lot of side effects that affect the head area. Neck pain and twitches, itchy face, yawning, trouble breathing, trouble catching your breath. It’s a great drug (in terms of having to take meds)- and it usually has few side effects. 800 is a LOT of Lamictal. I take 700 and that is also high. These doses are not studied in terms of bipolar disorder. So these side effects are not well documented. I’ve been on it since 2005 and if I go off it, my depression is quick. I wish I could have stayed on a lower dose, but it stopped working. The 700 has helped for a few years. I don’t think I will go up with it. I would rather add something than risk going higher.

Another thing to get checked. An ear, nose and throat doctor can check for cysts on the thyroid. This doesn’t mean there is anything wrong with the thyroid- they are very common- but I often feel there is something stuck in my throat.

Spreading out your doses can help.

And finally, is it there all of the time? Or does it come and go? Or…. does it start when you take the meds.

Regular medicine rarely understands the side effects we go through- they are so odd! Who would think a medication could cause constant yawning!

Hope this helps!

Julie

My Bp Magazine Blog Post: Does My Teenager Have Bipolar Disorder?

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It’s hard to know if your teenager has bipolar disorder simply because teenagers are emotional creatures!   How are parents supposed to figure out what is typical and what is a possible bipolar disorder symptom when so many teenage behaviors seems to mimic the ups and downs of bipolar disorder? I address this question in my latest blog for Bp Magazine.

 

 

 

After years of working with parents who ask me this exact question, I came up with a quick tool all parents can use to at least determine if a teenager needs an evaluation from a health care professional.  It doesn’t take a lot of time, but wow, it can save a lot of future grief!

Click here to read the blog post from Bp Magazine and visit BP Magazine on Facebook and let me know what you think!